Victor Davis Hanson and cohost Jack Fowler discussion the importance of a classical education, BLM mythologies, prioritizing military spending, and Covid19 rhetoric dying faster than the disease.
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thebaron@enter.net
@46:40 “Publicity moths”. That’s too genteel for me. I call ’em publicity whores.
@52:52 That the COVID shot could suppress a person’s immune system if he has a natural low white blood cell count, that this is known to be the case with the flu vaccine, reminds me of how deep the culture of expertism is rooted in our society. People listen to experts, in this case, medical experts, and take whatever they say without any skepticism. I first realized this, watching my grandmother, and her generation (she was born in 1914). They were hard-working, but only with the basic public school education. And they also had a tradition of respect for a university education, that they brought with them from when they emigrated from Italy. It worked like this: the doctor has been to the university, so he must be smart, and we’ll do whatever he says. Now, Nana had high blood pressure, arthritis, and osteoporosis, And three different doctors, one for each ailment, prescribed a drug for the respective one that he treated. Each drug had a distinct effect, but combined, they laid her out. It was only after my uncle sat down and reviewed the medicines, and talked to the doctors, that they realized this. Had Nana asked questions about the medications, that would have been avoided. But it wasn’t in her culture to ask. Her daughter, my godmother, is the same way. She has a regimen of 6 or 7 pills that she takes, without question.
I think this is common-people don’t question doctors.
thebaron@enter.net
Peralta proves George Orwell’s observation that there are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual can believe them.
@34:00 ff What Professor Hanson describes here is a form of soft fascism. It’s a nexus of State and big business combines to influence their market. As Jack points out, “It’s baked in the cake”. And this is not limited to the armaments industry, that Eisenhower warned about. It’s every business, and quasi-business organization-medicine, education. It is the natural corollary of having a large State that has penetrated into every sphere of life. It started in the 1890s. It has grown steadily ever since, whether fast, under some administrations, or slowly or even with a pause under others.
And those generals who are Professor Hanson’s former friends only advertise their moral bankruptcy, their moral cowardice, by turning on him for telling the truth.
thebaron@enter.net
I’ve wondered why “Gary Owen” is the show’s theme. Any particular reason?
James
Standard college texts for Classical History:
Oxford Illustrated History of Ancient Greece and the Hellenistic World
Oxford Illustrated History of Ancient Rome
Women in the Classical World by Shapiro et al.
Ancient Greece from Prehistoric to Hellenistic Times by Martin
From the Gracchii to Nero by Scullard
Classical Texts:
Homer Iliad and Odyssey
Hesiod Theogony and Works and Days
Sappho Poetic Fragments
Aeschylus Oresteia
Sophocles The Three Theban Plays
Euripides Bacchae
Aristophanes Lysistrata
Menander Dyskolos
Plato Meno, Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, Phaedo, Symposium, Republic
Aristotle Nicomachian Ethics
Demosthenes Phillipics
Herodotus The Persian Wars
Thucydides Peloponnesian War
Xenophon Anabasis
Apollodorus of Rhodes Argonautica
Polybius The Histories
Arrian The Life of Alexander
The New Testament
The Apostolic Fathers
Athanasius Why God Became Man and The Life of Saint Anthony
Plautus Plays
Terence Plays
Catullus Poems
Caesar The Gallic War
Sallust The War With Jugurtha and Cataline Conspiracy
Livy Histories
Tacitus Annals
Seutonius The 12 Caesars
Cicero any and all
Virgil Aeneid
Horace Odes
Ovid Art of Love and Metamorphoses
Lucan Pharsalia
Petronius Satyricon
Juvenile Satires
Plutarch Parallel Lives
Marcus Aurelius Meditations
Ammianus Marcellinus Res Gestae
Apulieus The Golden Ass
Saint Augustine Confessions and City of God
Boethius Consolation of Philosophy
James
Ps- I demand that Victor compose a hexa meter poem of Jussie’s Subway-wielding arestiea. Points if he has a ring composition description of the label on the bottle of bleach.
James
Dan-el Padilla-Peralta should quit his job if he hates his field so much. I know 4 qualified women who would fill his male slot and discharge it with soulful excellence. I remember one of their papers being so beautiful I wept while editing it.
Classical education in N.E. raised me to the level of a prince whose grandparents crawled out of the Lawrence ghetto. It did the same for my Okie spouse. Those who want to ban it couldn’t even form their arguments without pitting one part of its legacy against the others.
Carolee Wilson
I find it funny that they want to get rid of dead white males. Next time someone spews Marxist crap at me I am going to say – ” You are just spouting stuff dreamed up by Marx. He is just another old white guy. I think he was a white supremacist. . Why would I listen to that?”
This was taped before the CDC came out & said that they were going to continue to force you to wear masks on airplanes. This administration brings stupidity to soaring new heights. It’s almost an art form at this point. It’s like the Babylon Bee without the humor.
Moments that made me chuckle: BLM they are a Black version of the Lincoln project…… I’m not going to be the last person standing when the music stops.
Carolyn Conway
I want to thank your parents for producing an exceptional child, full of curiosity and the terrific memory. You put things in perspective for me and bring to mind events I had forgotten.
Stephen MacDonald
I have no problem increasing defense spending. I have a huge problem doing it with the current military leadership. We need a George Marshal and Frank Knox, supported to the hilt – who can cut out the dead wood and pick the right people. Spending hundreds of Billions, without getting the right people in place, is a waste. We do not have the right people, nor the right culture, in place now.
Bill Williams
What book or literature (classics) would recommend for a 75 year old new student history student?
@46:40 “Publicity moths”. That’s too genteel for me. I call ’em publicity whores.
@52:52 That the COVID shot could suppress a person’s immune system if he has a natural low white blood cell count, that this is known to be the case with the flu vaccine, reminds me of how deep the culture of expertism is rooted in our society. People listen to experts, in this case, medical experts, and take whatever they say without any skepticism. I first realized this, watching my grandmother, and her generation (she was born in 1914). They were hard-working, but only with the basic public school education. And they also had a tradition of respect for a university education, that they brought with them from when they emigrated from Italy. It worked like this: the doctor has been to the university, so he must be smart, and we’ll do whatever he says. Now, Nana had high blood pressure, arthritis, and osteoporosis, And three different doctors, one for each ailment, prescribed a drug for the respective one that he treated. Each drug had a distinct effect, but combined, they laid her out. It was only after my uncle sat down and reviewed the medicines, and talked to the doctors, that they realized this. Had Nana asked questions about the medications, that would have been avoided. But it wasn’t in her culture to ask. Her daughter, my godmother, is the same way. She has a regimen of 6 or 7 pills that she takes, without question.
I think this is common-people don’t question doctors.
Peralta proves George Orwell’s observation that there are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual can believe them.
@34:00 ff What Professor Hanson describes here is a form of soft fascism. It’s a nexus of State and big business combines to influence their market. As Jack points out, “It’s baked in the cake”. And this is not limited to the armaments industry, that Eisenhower warned about. It’s every business, and quasi-business organization-medicine, education. It is the natural corollary of having a large State that has penetrated into every sphere of life. It started in the 1890s. It has grown steadily ever since, whether fast, under some administrations, or slowly or even with a pause under others.
And those generals who are Professor Hanson’s former friends only advertise their moral bankruptcy, their moral cowardice, by turning on him for telling the truth.
I’ve wondered why “Gary Owen” is the show’s theme. Any particular reason?
Standard college texts for Classical History:
Oxford Illustrated History of Ancient Greece and the Hellenistic World
Oxford Illustrated History of Ancient Rome
Women in the Classical World by Shapiro et al.
Ancient Greece from Prehistoric to Hellenistic Times by Martin
From the Gracchii to Nero by Scullard
Classical Texts:
Homer Iliad and Odyssey
Hesiod Theogony and Works and Days
Sappho Poetic Fragments
Aeschylus Oresteia
Sophocles The Three Theban Plays
Euripides Bacchae
Aristophanes Lysistrata
Menander Dyskolos
Plato Meno, Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, Phaedo, Symposium, Republic
Aristotle Nicomachian Ethics
Demosthenes Phillipics
Herodotus The Persian Wars
Thucydides Peloponnesian War
Xenophon Anabasis
Apollodorus of Rhodes Argonautica
Polybius The Histories
Arrian The Life of Alexander
The New Testament
The Apostolic Fathers
Athanasius Why God Became Man and The Life of Saint Anthony
Plautus Plays
Terence Plays
Catullus Poems
Caesar The Gallic War
Sallust The War With Jugurtha and Cataline Conspiracy
Livy Histories
Tacitus Annals
Seutonius The 12 Caesars
Cicero any and all
Virgil Aeneid
Horace Odes
Ovid Art of Love and Metamorphoses
Lucan Pharsalia
Petronius Satyricon
Juvenile Satires
Plutarch Parallel Lives
Marcus Aurelius Meditations
Ammianus Marcellinus Res Gestae
Apulieus The Golden Ass
Saint Augustine Confessions and City of God
Boethius Consolation of Philosophy
Ps- I demand that Victor compose a hexa meter poem of Jussie’s Subway-wielding arestiea. Points if he has a ring composition description of the label on the bottle of bleach.
Dan-el Padilla-Peralta should quit his job if he hates his field so much. I know 4 qualified women who would fill his male slot and discharge it with soulful excellence. I remember one of their papers being so beautiful I wept while editing it.
Classical education in N.E. raised me to the level of a prince whose grandparents crawled out of the Lawrence ghetto. It did the same for my Okie spouse. Those who want to ban it couldn’t even form their arguments without pitting one part of its legacy against the others.
I find it funny that they want to get rid of dead white males. Next time someone spews Marxist crap at me I am going to say – ” You are just spouting stuff dreamed up by Marx. He is just another old white guy. I think he was a white supremacist. . Why would I listen to that?”
This was taped before the CDC came out & said that they were going to continue to force you to wear masks on airplanes. This administration brings stupidity to soaring new heights. It’s almost an art form at this point. It’s like the Babylon Bee without the humor.
Moments that made me chuckle: BLM they are a Black version of the Lincoln project…… I’m not going to be the last person standing when the music stops.
I want to thank your parents for producing an exceptional child, full of curiosity and the terrific memory. You put things in perspective for me and bring to mind events I had forgotten.
I have no problem increasing defense spending. I have a huge problem doing it with the current military leadership. We need a George Marshal and Frank Knox, supported to the hilt – who can cut out the dead wood and pick the right people. Spending hundreds of Billions, without getting the right people in place, is a waste. We do not have the right people, nor the right culture, in place now.
What book or literature (classics) would recommend for a 75 year old new student history student?