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From an Angry Reader:

Mr. Hanson,

You seem intent on defining progressives as people who loathe Donald Trump, as clearly defined group who have a unified strategy of driving him out of office.

 

The tactic of defining—and dismissing—all progressives with a broad brush is a convenient way to give Trump supporters a clearly defined enemy to hate. That style of rhetoric has more in common with Rush Limbaugh than a respected academician. It is also the type of divisive and overwrought discourse (from both sides) that we are currently awash in.

 

I am a progressive, which to my mind describes what I am for, not against.

 

I do deeply regret that, though fairly elected, Donald Trump is our president, but that is unrelated progressivism or conservatism.  Even if I were apolitical I would find President Trump deeply lacking in so many non-ideological ways. He is thin-skinned, untruthful and doesn’t seem to grasp the import of his position and seems to lack the character and intellect for the presidency.

 

I agree that he is being relentlessly attacked from many quarters (not just progressives), but his detractors do not need a strategy to bring him down. The media does not need to constantly vilify him to destroy his credibility. Simply observing his behavior, listening what he says and reading his tweets is sufficient to irreparably damage his presidency. He will likely bring down his own presidency with very little outside help.

 

Respectfully,

Glenn Shellhouse

Colorado Springs, CO

 

Victor Davis Hanson’s Reply:


Dear Angry Reader Glenn Shellhouse,
I do not think nor did I write that all progressives wish to drive Trump from office.
But what political rubric would you use for those who wished to subvert the Electoral College, or sued to nullify the voting results in three states, or boycotted the Inauguration, or seek to impeach Trump after 120 days, or to sue him under the Emoluments Clause, or to invoke the 25th Amendment, or seek to trump up false charges of collusion, or obstruction of justice, or demand recusals, or stonewall appointments? Are they reactionaries? Conservatives? Perhaps libertarians? Some generalized rubric is needed.
And what do Madonna, Snoop Dog, Bill Maher, Steven Colbert, etc. have in common? A shared conservative vision?
“An enemy to hate”? Who is using scatology, and the f— word? Who videoed a ritual decapitation, or dreamed of blowing up the White House, or wanted to punch Trump in the face? Independents? Moderates? Palecons?
It seems the vast majority of threats are from the left and their target is Trump, in a way not true of conservatives in their opposition to Obama. I was very critical of Obama’s policies and often polarizing rhetoric. I think he crippled the economy and left us vulnerable abroad, but I never translated that opposition to any personal hatred of the President, and most certainly I would never have gone the CNN or Chris Matthews route. Let us confess, so far the hate is mostly a left-wing phenomenon.
Trump is certainly flawed as you point out. But his agenda is far preferable to the Obama-Clinton trajectory. And we have had pretty creepy presidents in the past. So far Trump is not seducing and bedding 20-something interns as did JFK routinely, or as Bill Clinton frolicked with an unpaid intern of 22 (and then lied about it to the nation and under oath in a deposition). He has not tried to pack the Supreme Court as did FDR, or report book profits as capital gains to escape income taxes, as did Ike. We must in part see Trump’s excesses in a context of past presidencies. I thought de facto suspending federal immigration law was revolutionary and harmful to the state.

Trump is the first president who has neither political nor military service, so obviously the landscape is very different, and of course Trump’s style is over-the-top and often ad hominem. All regrettable. But with Obama the venom was directed at entire groups (“punish our enemies”, “get in their faces”, “take a gun to a knife fight”, the clingers, the “lazy” Americans, etc.).

As to your point of Trump’s self-destructiveness, time shall tell. He certainly is diverted by the trivial, such as two failed morning hosts without an audience. But the Shorenstein Center noted that 80% of all media coverage of Trump was negative, and in the case of CNN, 93%.  We’ve never seen that level of bias before. Nor the level of hatred and assassination talk: celebrities and public figures have variously talked of decapitating Trump, ritually stabbing him, hanging him, blowing him up, shooting him, beating him to a pulp—all without consequences. So, yes, we are in new territory.
Finally the polls, to the degree they are credible after the 2016 fiasco, suggest Trump enjoys only 40%—quite an amazing number actually when 80% of all news coverage is negative.
 Yet the media polls much lower, about 30-35% expressing confidence in journalists.
Trump has exposed the utter corruption of the media (Wikileaks did the same), but in the process he has diverted attention from the real issues at home and abroad. Tweeting is a wise way to communicate directly over  the heads of the media, but only if focused and confined to existential issues.
What you or I think about Trump won’t matter in 2020:  if the economy hits 3% GDP growth, he will be likely reelected, if it does not, he may not even run. Let us wait and watch the issues play out and we will see whether a sharp decrease in illegal immigration, an increase in oil and gas production, less regulation, and lower taxes,  enrich the citizens or impoverish them.  If the former, a crude Trump will win; if the latter, even Trump an angel would still lose.
Respectfully,
Victor Hanson
Selma, CA
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Christopher Sedlak 9 years ago

God bless Dr. Hanson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Walter Pazik 9 years ago

Who gave us a 20 trillion debt, a 1 trillion student debt that is likely to default to tax payers, like me who cannot afford additional expenses? Who gave us unsustainable obama-healthcare, unsustainable social security, medicare, and medicaid? Who gave us a near impossible to solve crisis with N. Korea, with Iran, with Syria, with Libya, with Iraq, with Afghanistan, with Russia, with China? The experienced politicians, the political class who answer to no one (the Clintons, obama, rice, the IRA, the EPA, the FBI, the Justice Dept., etc.) did. Trump did not. This business about Trump's manners is nonsense.

Katherine Schlimm 9 years ago

Please make no mistake. I love that our President attacks the media. Today's media is corrupt leftist propaganda. The media is more of a threat to America than N. Korea. There is no need to make apologies for Trump or his supporters. (Just for the record, I wanted Ted Cruz. He would not have won, and would have crumbled under these relentless character assassinations.)

Constancio S Asumen Jr 9 years ago

I think replying to Mr. Glenn Shelhouse is a waste of ink and energy.

Steven Sharrard 9 years ago

I enjoy all your writing. And special angry reader.......... Best Regards Steven

jim delaney 9 years ago

Excellent reply, sir.

Chuck Coty 9 years ago

Victor, I appreciate your very well argued reply. Has it not occurred to progressives/leftists that conservatives no less appreciate the broad brush of contempt simply for our association with President Trump? Am I required to condone all of his pettiness (he gets on my nerves as well) simply because I support many of the policies and leaders he's put into place? President Obama was no less a narcissist yet I rarely heard anyone from the MSM point that out. I too am quite amazed that Pres.Trump enjoys a 40% approval rating given the overwhelming attempt by almost all media outlets to smear him. I've lived through Watergate, Iran-Contra, Whitewater, Bengazi and all scandals in between and I've never seen a more vicious and obviously one-sided press. Every day in my daily Microsoft feed I am inundated with refuse from clearly partisan hacks posing as journalists. If the leftwing media treated President Obama even partially like they do President Trump, he would have left office with a 10% approval rating. Thanks for standing in the gap.

NotPropagandized 9 years ago

Agreed that Trump tweets are unfocused, but we got what we deserved as we atrociously did in getting Obama voted in by intellectually and ideologically lazy voters (should I add morally, too). I don't watch much on purpose but I'm so angered by CorruptMedia that Trump unleashed on the journo-infidels as much as he wants and as much as the withering response is as childish as ever. . Our erstwhile high civilization is no more. We've devolved into children and adolescence. Fighting over the black hole of power that was allowed to swell and fester because losing control is losing all power. Where did the limits go? The states are weak and need to buck up. Texas is leading and some are following, but the fight by governors (Abbott of TX) needs to be ratcheted upward many times over. . I'm breathing much to hard and must stop, because I really do hate losing my liberal society that has no idea that conservative governance is what saves the liberal society. I'm tired of my country being dumb.

John P. Hurabiell 9 years ago

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Kerwin J Lebeis 9 years ago

Danger, Will Robinson. Virtue Signalling = not being "deeply lacking." I am surprised you did not resort to scatology. A**holery comes to mind. Luck for Trump, who fears he will get "very little outside help" in bringing down his Presidency, the Fake New Media has generously chipped in with 80 or 90 percent negative coverage.

John P. Hurabiell 9 years ago

Prof. Hanson, I am so sick and tired of the Left and the Trump Haters claiming that he is a liar. I grant you that he exaggerates (who doesn't) but I am unaware of any lies that he has told. Can you please share with me any (and all) lies that President Trump has told--let's limit this to his public life. Who knows what he told Marla when he got home late.

Bruce McClelland 9 years ago

Professor Hanson, Your measured and insightful responses to "Angry Readers" always impresses me. Rather than lash out and excoriate your critics you use your God given intelligence to offer specific and valid responses to them. I enjoy the "Angry Readers" letter almost as much as your regular postings with the Hoover Foundation. The detail of your regular postings are impressive. I wish I could remember half of what you've written. I've just come on board reading your postings within the last year. I look forward to reading more in the coming years. Bruce McClelland Tucson