{"id":8615,"date":"2015-08-24T07:44:54","date_gmt":"2015-08-24T14:44:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/victorhanson.com\/wordpress\/?p=8615"},"modified":"2015-08-26T07:52:25","modified_gmt":"2015-08-26T14:52:25","slug":"absurd-and-not-so-absurd-immigration","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/victorhanson.com\/wordpress\/absurd-and-not-so-absurd-immigration\/","title":{"rendered":"Absurd\u2014and Not-so-Absurd\u2014Immigration"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3><em>Trump\u2019s plan of mass deportations en masse is unworkable, but that\u2019s not an argument against weeding out criminals and those without work histories in the U.S.<\/em><\/h3>\n<p>by Victor Davis Hanson \/\/ <a href=\"http:\/\/pjmedia.com\/victordavishanson\/ absurd-and-not-so-absurd-immigration\/\" target=\"_blank\">PJ Media<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"Center\">\n<div id=\"Outline\">\n<div id=\"BlogContent\">\n<figure id=\"attachment_8601\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-8601\" style=\"width: 443px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"8601\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/victorhanson.com\/wordpress\/how-long-will-trumps-cathartic-candidacy-for-fed-up-conservatives-last\/donald-trump-cathartic-candidacy\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/victorhanson.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/donald-trump-cathartic-candidacy.jpg?fit=920%2C537&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"920,537\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"donald-trump-cathartic-candidacy\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Photo via NRO&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/victorhanson.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/donald-trump-cathartic-candidacy.jpg?fit=500%2C292&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/victorhanson.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/donald-trump-cathartic-candidacy.jpg?fit=806%2C470&amp;ssl=1\" class=\" wp-image-8601\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/victorhanson.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/donald-trump-cathartic-candidacy.jpg?resize=443%2C259&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Photo via NRO\" width=\"443\" height=\"259\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/victorhanson.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/donald-trump-cathartic-candidacy.jpg?resize=500%2C292&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/victorhanson.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/donald-trump-cathartic-candidacy.jpg?resize=250%2C146&amp;ssl=1 250w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/victorhanson.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/donald-trump-cathartic-candidacy.jpg?w=920&amp;ssl=1 920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 443px) 100vw, 443px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-8601\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photo via NRO<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>In the discussion of Donald Trump\u2019s agenda for dealing with illegal immigration, lots of his proposals are said to be absurd. But are they all?<\/p>\n<p><b>Mass Deportations?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Targeted deportations are not the same as mass deportations. Trump may want all of the latter, but just as absurdly the Democratic Party seems not to want any of the former.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>We don\u2019t know how many illegal immigrants are in the United States, only that the proverbial figure of \u201c11 million\u201d exists in amber since the last century, and despite massive influxes each year. So there is no way to ascertain either the size of the pool of illegal immigrants or how many have committed crimes. Rounding up every illegal alien and immediately deporting them is not feasible, but that does <i>not<\/i> mean that over one million with criminal records could not be returned to their home countries as undesirables.<\/p>\n<p>Even liberal sources suggest that somewhere between 12% to 15% of that figure are likely criminals or have arrest records. Some states report a fourth to a third of their murders are likely committed by illegal aliens. That cohort makes up over 25% of federal prisoners.<\/p>\n<p>In other words, the number of what Trump in politically incorrect fashion called \u201cgood people\u201d (e.g., does he mean those without a criminal record other than entering the U.S. illegally?) is likely quite large, in both absolute numbers, and percentage wise.<\/p>\n<p>The number of Trump\u2019s supposedly \u201cbad people\u201d (convicted of a felony or serious misdemeanor?), who as guests abused the hospitality of their host, could be small percentage-wise. Yet the number might still be well over one million in need of immediate and lasting deportation.<\/p>\n<p>Would deportations of the more than one million (if one deported only criminals, and <i>not <\/i>as well those without work records and chronically on public assistance), as alleged, begin with a storm of jack-booted cops breaking down the doors of innocent barrio residences?<\/p>\n<p>Hardly.<\/p>\n<p>Every day, thousands of illegal aliens file false federal affidavits, use phony Social Security numbers, employ fake IDs, are pulled over for DUIs, and shoot and steal \u2014 the very violations of the laws that sanctuary cities sought to nullify.\u00a0 The crimes are apparently numerous enough occurrences to win the attention of sanctuary cities, which would not exist if illegal aliens were all, as implied, \u201cdreamers.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In sum, government agencies would need only to follow passive enforcement of the law, and allow illegal aliens to come into contact with legal authorities of various sorts rather that conduct deportation raids. ICE, then, would need only to deport those who had criminal holds on them \u2014 as they insidiously came into contact with the criminal justice system. The number and frequency of those encounters could be quite substantial each day and cumulatively so by year\u2019s end.<\/p>\n<p><b>Make Mexico Pay?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Sending Mexico a bill, or charging tariffs on trade, to finish the wall as penance for its cynical manipulation of American magnanimity is childish and unnecessary. Instead, we should look at some \u00a0$40-50 billion that are sent as remittances home to Central America and Mexico each year, largely by illegal aliens themselves. Such a staggering sum might represent on average a $200-500 a month expense per illegal alien, a disposable sum that at best suggests existential poverty may not necessarily haunt every illegal alien resident, and at worse might remind us that government subsidies are sometimes used to free up income to send out of the country. Imagine if $40-50 billion were instead infused into the U.S. health care and legal systems for the indigent.<\/p>\n<p>All the government would have to do, in the manner that most nations abroad already do, would be to impose a federal surcharge on all remittances by any sender who could not provide a U.S. passport to substantiate the transaction. At a 10% rate, billions could be raised ($4-5 billion a year?), and applied to the completion of the border fence. Within \u00a0four or five years, the cost ($20 billion?) could be easily met by those whose illegality prompted the wall to be built.<\/p>\n<p><b>Nativism?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Trump uses imprecise, occasionally offensive, and self-contradictory vocabulary, but he is certainly not a nativist in the sense that many Latino illegal immigration activists are. So far he has not shrugged off the death of Kate Steinle as <a href=\"http:\/\/newsbusters.org\/blogs\/latino\/yuri-perez\/2015\/07\/16\/rep-luis-guti%C3%A9rrez-calls-murder-kate-steinle-little-thing\" rel=\"external\">a \u201clittle thing\u201d<\/a> <sup>[1]<\/sup> as did Representative Gutierrez \u2014 to silence from the media. He is not calling for federal law to be suspended for 11 million Scots and Irish who have fled to the U.S., entered the country illegally, and resonated ethnic affinity with him. Adherence to the law is the classically liberal position, because it is ethnically blind and judges legal applicants as qualified or not according to non-racial criteria. It is precisely the La Raza movement that has injected race into the immigration equation, and illiberally demanded that one particular group \u2014 Latinos from Central America and Mexico alone by virtue both of ethnic affinity and potential political advantages in the future \u2014 be exempt from federal laws in a way others from Korea, Africa, and Europe are not.<\/p>\n<p><b>Anchor Babies?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>The citizenship language of the 14<sup>th<\/sup> Amendment \u2014 \u201cAll persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside\u201d \u2014 is currently <i>interpreted<\/i> by courts as extending automatic citizenship to those born on U.S. soil to foreign nationals residing illegally on U.S. soil. But, as a number of legal scholars have argued, such an interpretation may not have been the intent of the original drafters of the amendment or even subsequent court decisions \u2014 and could be clarified to that effect by congressional legislation.<\/p>\n<p>Are foreign nationals, illegally residing in the U.S, really subject to the \u201cjurisdiction thereof\u201d of the United States, or are they still subject, in terms of allegiance and law, to a foreign country in which, unlike America, they enjoy full legal status and jurisdiction such as voting, government employment, and political activity? And are sanctuary cities proof of that fact \u2014 by declaring that federal immigration law has no applicability or jurisdiction to foreign nationals residing in the U.S. illegally? Liberals are fond of pointing to foreign jurisprudence \u2014 European especially \u2014 to chide American legal backwardness. But is the anchor-baby tenet true of postmodern EU nations? In fact, is there any European socialist democracy that has adopted an anchor-baby policy?<\/p>\n<p>In a practical sense, anyone who lives in an area with a large population of illegal aliens knows that it is a common tact for pregnant foreign nationals to deliberately plan on giving birth in the U.S., both to ensure citizenship for their children, and to create a proverbial anchor, by which they can either obtain legal residency for themselves or cite familial humanitarian claims later on if deportation suddenly looms. Is that not a means of circumventing and subverting the law by avoiding an application for legal green-card resident status? If \u201canchor baby\u201d is a pejorative term, what then is the politically correct expression for that real fact?<\/p>\n<p><b>Euphemisms<\/b><\/p>\n<p>The open-borders movement has tried to discredit the use of anchor baby without offering any other adjective\/noun that denotes this reality. I suggest the inexact \u201cmaternity immigration\u201d to include the role of both the mother and baby, recognizing it lacks the specificity of \u201canchor.\u201d There still is not a proper adjective\/noun replacement for \u201cillegal alien.\u201d \u201cUndocumented immigrant\u201d suggests illegal aliens lost or failed to get the proper documents \u2014 when that was precisely never the attention. What does the prefix \u201cun\u201d really mean? That someone left his documents at the border, wandered into Los Angeles, and, presto, discovered his absent-mindedness, and so became an un-documented person?<\/p>\n<p>Breaking federal law is not a neutral matter of being without documents, but simply deliberately <i>choosing<\/i> never to obtain them at all. Alien (\u201cnot of this locale\u201d) is not a pejorative term, but recognizes that Mexico and the United States are two different legal entities. Oddly, what<i>is<\/i> an offensive noun is <i>La Raza<\/i> (\u201cthe race\u201d), racial chauvinism at its worse. <i>Raza<\/i> has a terrible history of modern usage in fascist Franco\u2019s Spain and Mussolini\u2019s Italy, and has disappeared from popular accepted usage in both countries. Raza was brought back into contemporary American parlance by racial separatists, particularly in the 1960s. Mrs. Clinton just spoke at the National Council of La Raza, and yet has been vocal about accusing others of polarizing the debate through charged language. That is absurd.<\/p>\n<p><b>The Absurd?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Elites have branded Trump\u2019s immigration proposals as absurd, especially the inflated rhetoric about a wall, and good and bad people. His idea of mass deportations <i>en masse<\/i> is unworkable, but not an argument against weeding out criminals and those without work histories in the United States.<\/p>\n<p>What is absurd?<\/p>\n<p>Absurdity is ceding vast swaths along the southern border as a sanctuary area where federal law does not apply. Or allowing 10% of Mexico\u2019s population to enter illegally, to reside illegally, and to redefine the very nomenclature of illegal alien \u2014 making demands on the host about its own laws, languages, and protocols. Sanctuary cities are absurd neo-Confederate ideas and harken back to the 1850s. Raza is a good Balkan word, the sort of racially charged buzz noun that leads logically to a Bosnia or Kosovo.<\/p>\n<p>The debate over illegal immigration has radically changed in direct proportion to the growth of the illegal resident population to well over 11 million people. Jeb Bush implied that elements of illegal immigration are an act of love. Perhaps that is true for millions of illegal aliens, who work hard and for little pay, and usually do not violate further state and federal laws. I see them every day.<\/p>\n<p>But not all foreign nationals from Mexico and Central America do that.<\/p>\n<p>One would accept Bush\u2019s blanket generalization only if he had the clout or capital to be exempt from the ramifications of his own ideology. When a car zoomed into the barnyard last night and tossed out a brood of puppies (twice now in one month), and when last week a man threw wet garbage from his pickup next to my mailbox (full of Spanish language magazines, diapers, and used baby clothes), and when last month someone stole my pickup (found by police abandoned and damaged in a Fresno alleyway, with Mexican beer, food, and Spanish-language ads inside), and when two weeks ago a non-English speaker came in the driveway looking for trailers of prostitution (<i>caravanas<\/i>) down the road, I felt that they all had expressed little love for animals, the environment, or young women, or for that matter themselves \u2014 or me.<\/p>\n<p>In other words, I sensed no act of love.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<hr class=\"Divider\" \/>\n<p>Article printed from Works and Days: <strong dir=\"ltr\">http:\/\/pjmedia.com\/victordavishanson<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>URL to article: <strong dir=\"ltr\">http:\/\/pjmedia.com\/victordavishanson\/absurd-and-not-so-absurd-immigration\/<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>URLs in this post:<\/p>\n<p>[1] a \u201clittle thing\u201d: <b><span dir=\"ltr\">http:\/\/newsbusters.org\/blogs\/latino\/yuri-perez\/2015\/07\/16\/rep-luis-guti%C3%A9rrez-calls-murder-kate-steinle-little-thing<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Copyright \u00a9 2015 Works and Days. 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