{"id":3355,"date":"2011-04-11T18:17:12","date_gmt":"2011-04-11T18:17:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/victorhanson.com.108-166-28-151.mdgnetworks.com\/wordpress\/?p=3355"},"modified":"2013-03-26T18:19:50","modified_gmt":"2013-03-26T18:19:50","slug":"did-we-give-up-on-libya","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/victorhanson.com\/wordpress\/did-we-give-up-on-libya\/","title":{"rendered":"Did We Give Up on Libya?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>by Victor Davis Hanson<\/p>\n<p>Tribune Media Services<\/p>\n<p>President Obama has announced that America would stop attacking Col. Muammar Gadhafi&#8217;s forces in Libya. He instead hopes that others can force out Gadhafi \u2014 or that the dictator will leave through economic and diplomatic pressure.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>It will apparently be up to NATO to finish the war \u2014 without direct American combat participation. The relieved Obama administration had never quite explained what the mission was in the first place \u2014 or for whom and for what we were fighting. Was the bombing to stop the killing, to help the rebels, to remove Gadhafi, or to aid the British and French, who both have considerable oil interests in Libya?<\/p>\n<p>Were we enforcing just a no-fly zone, establishing a sort of no-fly zone with occasional attacks on ground targets, or secretly sending in American operatives on the ground to work with rebels? Did the Obama administration go well beyond the Arab League and United Nations resolutions by trying to target Gadhafi for a while and ensure that the rebels won? If so, did anyone care? Was the administration ever going to ask for congressional approval \u2014 at a time when we are running a $1.6 trillion annual budget deficit and have about 150,000 troops committed in Afghanistan and Iraq? Was Libya a greater threat to our national security than Syria or Iran, or a greater humanitarian crisis than the Congo or Ivory Coast? Are our new allies, the rebels, Westernized reformers, Islamists, or both \u2014 or neither?<\/p>\n<p>The abrupt abandonment of hostilities after about two weeks has set an American military precedent. True, the United States once lost a big war in Vietnam. It also decided not to finish a war with Islamic terrorists in 1983 after Hezbollah operatives blew up 241 US military personnel in their Beirut barracks. In 1993, a few months after the &#8220;Black Hawk Down&#8221; mess in Mogadishu, President Clinton quietly withdrew American troops from Somalia.<\/p>\n<p>In the past, the United States has also agreed to conditions short of full victory, as with the 1953 armistice with the North Koreans that has left the Korean peninsula divided to this day. Bill Clinton also ordered missile attacks in retaliation for terrorist attacks on Americans \u2014 both in Afghanistan and Sudan \u2014 without much follow-up. Yet in no prior military engagement against a nation-state has the United States simply announced that it was arbitrarily and unilaterally going to stop fighting after an initial two weeks of combat operations.<\/p>\n<p>I would not count on the ready departure of Gadhafi or his family.<\/p>\n<p>In 1977, Egyptian President Anwar Sadat struck back at Libyan provocations and almost invaded the country. Egypt&#8217;s massive army could have smashed the Libyan military and easily removed Gadhafi, but Egypt was talked out of the war at the last minute by concerned Arab nations.<\/p>\n<p>In 1986, Ronald Reagan ordered a strike against Tripoli aimed at Gadhafi himself \u2014 who may have been warned ahead of time of the impending attack and escaped. Reagan gave up on further missions against Gadhafi.<\/p>\n<p>Gadhafi fought and lost a decade-long war against Chad from 1978 to 1987. Yet despite thousands of dead and wounded Libyans, the defeat did not endanger Gadhafi&#8217;s hold on power.<\/p>\n<p>During his 42-year reign, Gadhafi has sent troops to help out the monstrous Ugandan dictator Idi Amin, blown up passenger jets, supported Slobodan Milosevic in the Balkan wars, ordered assassinations abroad, masterminded terrorist plots \u2014 and always survived by using his vast petroleum fortunes to buy reprieves.<\/p>\n<p>Unlike pro-Western strongmen in Tunisia and Egypt who simply left when protests mounted, Gadhafi is perfectly willing to kill thousands of his own people to retain power. After all, he is a totalitarian outlaw with nowhere to go. Usually, such monsters do not abdicate unless they are yanked out by American ground troops \u2014 as in Grenada, Iraq and Panama \u2014 or bombed relentlessly for weeks on end, as in the case of the NATO campaign against Milosevic.<\/p>\n<p>Sanctions and pariah status usually do not matter much to brutal dictators like Gadhafi \u2014 as the longevity of Zimbabwe&#8217;sRobert Mugabe, North Korea&#8217;s Kim Jong-Il or Cuba&#8217;sFidel Castro attests.<\/p>\n<p>In our defense, we can say that Gadhafi&#8217;s removal was properly a European task. We can even agree that President Obama acted precipitously, without a clear-cut mission, strategy or desired outcome \u2014 and without majority support of either Congress or the American people.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, we can say all that. But if Gadhafi or his family survives in power after the United States simply got tired and quit, we will also be able to say that this sort of defeat is something quite new in American history.<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">\n<p>\u00a92011 Tribune Media Services<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>by Victor Davis Hanson Tribune Media Services President Obama has announced that America would stop attacking Col. Muammar Gadhafi&#8217;s forces in Libya. He instead hopes that others can force out Gadhafi \u2014 or that the dictator will leave through economic and diplomatic pressure.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false}}},"categories":[159],"tags":[12,115,173,1028,1048,1047,1071,1070,1030],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p466Sb-S7","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":2527,"url":"https:\/\/victorhanson.com\/wordpress\/a-dumb-and-dumber-war-in-libya\/","url_meta":{"origin":3355,"position":0},"title":"A Dumb and Dumber War in Libya","author":"victorhanson","date":"July 18, 2011","format":false,"excerpt":"by Victor Davis Hanson Tribune Media Services Almost daily over the last four months we were told that Muammar Gadhafi was about ready to throw in the towel and give up. 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